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		<title>By: Dawn Passaro</title>
		<link>http://www.hrexaminer.com/090807-spiritual-blogging/comment-page-1#comment-3378</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Passaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Thanks for you very provocative posting!  I was inspired to write this blog:

http://hrmarketer.blogspot.com/

I also brought up the topic in another blog posting and the comment was made that HR should not be the &quot;baby sitter&quot; of business ethics.  She said that the C suite folks are responsible for their own ethics, and HR is trying to get away from this babysitter role.    I feel like it is our place to bring the topic up, and to guide others into focusing on the topic, just to ensure business decisions are made with ethics in mind.

What do you think?
Dawn

I also enjoyed the posting by Amiti above:
Inspired poetry — the stuff that comes from your soul — rarely translates into something anyone wants to read much less a half-way decent blog post the average Joe cares to understand.

That is something to think about, but I really hope he is wrong!

Dawn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Thanks for you very provocative posting!  I was inspired to write this blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://hrmarketer.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://hrmarketer.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>I also brought up the topic in another blog posting and the comment was made that HR should not be the &#8220;baby sitter&#8221; of business ethics.  She said that the C suite folks are responsible for their own ethics, and HR is trying to get away from this babysitter role.    I feel like it is our place to bring the topic up, and to guide others into focusing on the topic, just to ensure business decisions are made with ethics in mind.</p>
<p>What do you think?<br />
Dawn</p>
<p>I also enjoyed the posting by Amiti above:<br />
Inspired poetry — the stuff that comes from your soul — rarely translates into something anyone wants to read much less a half-way decent blog post the average Joe cares to understand.</p>
<p>That is something to think about, but I really hope he is wrong!</p>
<p>Dawn</p>
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		<title>By: Amitai Givertz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amitai Givertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easy to confuse spirituality with religion just as it is to confuse &quot;servant leadership&quot; with something other than decent leadership.

The workplace is an environment defined by rules, protocol, process, procedures and the like. These forms of orderly conduct are easily articulated in the language of religion and so, one imagines, blogging about it doesn&#039;t require a leap of faith. 

Suffering without complaint under a tyrannical jackass of a boss, turning the other cheek rather than pursue a lawsuit, and quietly working within a corrupt organization to right the wrongs, that requires soul. 

Inspired poetry -- the stuff that comes from your soul -- rarely translates into something anyone wants to read much less a half-way decent blog post the average Joe cares to understand.

In my humbled opinion, if you ever have to ask someone if you should blog about this or blog about that, you&#039;d be better served by not blogging at all. A lack of conviction is hard to mask, even behind eloquent prose.

Other than that, the only advise I could offer your friend is...pray on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy to confuse spirituality with religion just as it is to confuse &#8220;servant leadership&#8221; with something other than decent leadership.</p>
<p>The workplace is an environment defined by rules, protocol, process, procedures and the like. These forms of orderly conduct are easily articulated in the language of religion and so, one imagines, blogging about it doesn&#8217;t require a leap of faith. </p>
<p>Suffering without complaint under a tyrannical jackass of a boss, turning the other cheek rather than pursue a lawsuit, and quietly working within a corrupt organization to right the wrongs, that requires soul. </p>
<p>Inspired poetry &#8212; the stuff that comes from your soul &#8212; rarely translates into something anyone wants to read much less a half-way decent blog post the average Joe cares to understand.</p>
<p>In my humbled opinion, if you ever have to ask someone if you should blog about this or blog about that, you&#8217;d be better served by not blogging at all. A lack of conviction is hard to mask, even behind eloquent prose.</p>
<p>Other than that, the only advise I could offer your friend is&#8230;pray on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley J. Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradley J. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THis is a great summary of the problem of faith-work movement. They view the business as a stomping grounds for evangelism, and the biblical references are one-dimensional sunday school lessons. Three cheers for you for identifying this. I am a Christian executive who Blogs, but tend to do more self-reflection with humor. Instead of trying to be right, or convert people, I write more with a self-deference that I am probably NOT right most of the time, and that the grace of God gets me through.

THanks for a thoughtful discussion of a very important topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THis is a great summary of the problem of faith-work movement. They view the business as a stomping grounds for evangelism, and the biblical references are one-dimensional sunday school lessons. Three cheers for you for identifying this. I am a Christian executive who Blogs, but tend to do more self-reflection with humor. Instead of trying to be right, or convert people, I write more with a self-deference that I am probably NOT right most of the time, and that the grace of God gets me through.</p>
<p>THanks for a thoughtful discussion of a very important topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Aylward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen Aylward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we not moving toward &quot;work/life balance&quot; these days?  And if so, what is the &quot;life&quot; part of the balance definition if not partly spiritual?  The spirit needs to be renewed continually in order for the mind/body to function at top potential.  We want time off from the business of the work day to spend quality time with those we love.  This coveted connection to spouses, children, friends is not just physical but renewing in an &#039;invisible&#039; way.

I&#039;m thinking we need to get over the stigma of the word &quot;spiritual&quot; equating to &quot;religious&quot;.  The two are not the same.

We screen for the &quot;spirit&quot; of the person (personality and energy) when hiring.  We judge the &quot;spirit&quot; of the person (code of ethics) when choosing those who will manage us.  We choose authors and teachers and consultants on the basis of the &quot;spirit&quot; of their counsel, or their &quot;way of thinking&quot; or the rules that they live by etc etc.  

Therefore the code of behavior or the statements of our business beliefs which are based on human ethics could be seen as the spirit of the company... the spiritual aspects.

This  is a deep subject with many facets.  Wish i had more time... but I&#039;m happy that John is bringing this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we not moving toward &#8220;work/life balance&#8221; these days?  And if so, what is the &#8220;life&#8221; part of the balance definition if not partly spiritual?  The spirit needs to be renewed continually in order for the mind/body to function at top potential.  We want time off from the business of the work day to spend quality time with those we love.  This coveted connection to spouses, children, friends is not just physical but renewing in an &#8216;invisible&#8217; way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking we need to get over the stigma of the word &#8220;spiritual&#8221; equating to &#8220;religious&#8221;.  The two are not the same.</p>
<p>We screen for the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of the person (personality and energy) when hiring.  We judge the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of the person (code of ethics) when choosing those who will manage us.  We choose authors and teachers and consultants on the basis of the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of their counsel, or their &#8220;way of thinking&#8221; or the rules that they live by etc etc.  </p>
<p>Therefore the code of behavior or the statements of our business beliefs which are based on human ethics could be seen as the spirit of the company&#8230; the spiritual aspects.</p>
<p>This  is a deep subject with many facets.  Wish i had more time&#8230; but I&#8217;m happy that John is bringing this up.</p>
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